[First posted February 13, 2006]
1) Some people are trying to convert others while some are not.
This is simply not true. As soon as anyone opens their mouth or hits "send" they are acting out a desire to convert others to think and act like they do. Whether this is conscious or not is irrelevant. A person who thinks of nothing but the Pittsburgh Steelers tries to convert others to their worldview when they open their mouth. Drug dealers are among the most successful at converting others. Conversion does not necessarily have to be a conversion towards enlightenment. One can be converted to darkness, drinking heavily, and drugs.
Call it the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle in human interaction. The reality of the observed is changed by the presence of the observer. Our influence precedes us in the way we act, dress, and what we choose to say.
2) Deathbed conversions.
It is sure nice when someone accepts Jesus as their savior on their deathbed. I'm not convinced that there is anything we can say with any certainty about the authenticity of such a faith. We can enjoy that little flutter of hope that our dying relative will be "saved", but one can never be sure where that flutter is coming from.
To use the hope for deathbed conversions as an excuse to exonerate evil people is ridiculous. I was shocked when President Clinton used this as his excuse for not taking out Saddam. "I've always believed in deathbed conversions." Ouch! Tell that to the Kurds and Shias.
3) Conversions to an absolute truth are not right because there is no absolute truth.
This seems to have been the pivot point in the excellent discussion in the previous post's comments; that point that would not give in to further examination. I have a view of the Bible. You have a different view, therefore we disagree. But if one person sees a loving God in it's pages and the other sees a bloodlust God, the debate is still far from over. I have a sneaking suspicion that "true for me" falls short of bedrock. In a court of law you have to prove your case beyond a reasonable doubt. Twelve jurors have to unanimously side with one side or the other. If we stop digging at "true for me", are we really done?
Can the subjective truth person even take their own advice? "This is true for me". Ok, are you sure. "Absolutely!" Absolute truth is a reality in our daily lives. We use it to get to work, eat meals, make money, go to the bathroom.
This idea of subjective truth got too much traction because of Rene Descartes' having too many glasses of wine by the fireplace. When he said, "I think, therefore I am!" he thought he had hit bedrock. He even thought he had made a good discovery for the Church. What he did was take the center of the universe from God's view and made it his, for him. Wittgenstein correctly pointed out that the only "I think therefore I am!" that matters to all is that of God.
For someone to ascribe to subjective truth they are by definition denying that there is a reality apart from their mind. Were anyone to actually practice this worldview, they would be pretty wierd, huh?
The truth is that absolute truth exists and everybody uses it in practice even if they reject it in theory. Collectivism of these little "I am"s is not much better. Yes, people can be converted to a reality outside of their mind, that is, converted to absolute truth.
4) External conversion itself is a myth.
Real conversion is not forced in any way. Noone can say that this one or that "converted" me. As Christians, we like to give credit to this pastor or that philosopher for their help (the way they were used), but we recognize that it was the Holy Spirit that converted (convinced) us. God can use us to give evidence, whether it's the example of our good character that we credit to Christ, or our own testimony, or evidence from the Bible and other books.
The peace the Lord gives is very attractive, but it is not coercive. The Holy Spirit does not use or need fear. It does not force itself. Often I have seen it plant itself and slowly grow. The Holy Spirit is patient. It doesn't HAVE to transform you overnight. When we discover God we find Him inside us. I pray that God may use me to help unbelievers find that Spirit hidden beneath the noise and the aggravation of daily life.
The other night I took my daughter to a father-daughter dance. During a couple of slow songs she gave me a big hug while we were slow dancing and I could feel her fill with emotion. Ah, yes, I thought, the humanity has taken root. The seed of love is beginning to blossom. Like any kid, my daughter has used emotion mainly to change an outward circumstance, up to now. Now, love is taking hold, and changing her from within.
When we find God within, then we can see Him in the reality outside our minds. That's why children drubbed with Christianity from birth still need a "conversion experience". Conversion is not when one person convinces another, but when God convinces the one person.
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